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jacofan
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netmuzik
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| Posted 11/2/2008 9:10 AM (GMT -6) | | D. Chaloux said...
Bassoon is not an unusual instrument. Maybe in today's repertoire, but it has been a standard instrument in orchestration since there were concertos.
But I have nothing for unusual concertos.
The average person wouldn't expect a bassoon concerto, though (the exact wording was "that most people wouldn't expect"). Piano and violin concertos are so prevalent, probably because they're two of the instruments thought to have the greatest expressive capabilities and ability to go solo (rightly or not). Piano concertos, in particular, tend to be among the most widely performed. You could argue that any instrument has the potential for a concerto, and you may be right. But it's hard to get mileage out of a couple timpanis compared to a grand piano.
The average person would be astonished to know that Vivaldi spent so much time composing concerti for an instrument that doesn't have that much popular recognition. Maybe seasoned orchestra performers would laugh at this, but it is what it is.
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netmuzik
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| Posted 11/2/2008 10:43 PM (GMT -6) | | Cattie said...
The average person today doesn't listen to concerti. Bassoon has been in the orchestra for ages, so the fact that many people would be astonished is sad, not funny.
Perhaps what the original poster meant wasn't "most people" but "most people who have better than a passing familiarity with classical music." I don't dispute that the bassoon has been set to concerti for centuries (Mozart wrote one) or that it has been a standard orchestral instrument for that long either.
I do dispute your contention that "the fact that many people would be astonished is sad, not funny." It's too easy to look at this matter from the perspective of a seasoned listener/performer of classical music. It's like saying it's sad that many people would be astonished that John Cage would write a piece that instructs the performer(s) not to play at all for the duration of the piece. For someone who has actually heard the piece, it may be thought of as one of the most brilliant ideas in the history of music. But everyone else is just asking themselves, "Why the hell would I want to listen to 4 minutes and 33 seconds of silence?" Again, perspective is key here.
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Influenced by: Johann Strauss II, and others
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young composer
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| Posted 11/3/2008 12:37 AM (GMT -6) | | I don't want to get too off topic, but I read the comment about Cage's 4 minutes and 33 seconds. It could be viewed as genius, or a mere waste of time. However, there are two aspects of genius to look at. The idea of silence for a piece could be genius, but when you lok at how much compositional skill it took to compose a piece like that, it took none.
As for the concerti instrument, I think the best way to shock people is to use unusual instrument combinations. The French Horn and Violin are very traditional ALONE, but put together, could create a very unique piece of music.
An Oboe and a snare drum.
Tuba, and a clarinet.
Although these instruments may not sound too good together, your skill as a composer might have to kick in.
Shock the listeners.
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adam colbert
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| Posted 11/4/2008 12:42 AM (GMT -6) | | |
ooohh, i've got one.....
concerti for glass harmonica and washtub bass (or "gutbucket").
not sure where you'd find a glass harmonica player.
not sure how you'd notate a gutbucket.
details, details..... lol
i'm not a parent, but i'm a composer, and i think compositions are like children. sometimes they're incredible. sometimes they don't quite do what you want them to. sometimes you learn from them. sometimes they don't quite turn out the way you wanted them to. sometimes you're able to improve them. sometimes all you can do is accept them for what they are. sometimes they're good enough, and sometimes they're practically perfect. and sometimes they end up just being downright stupid, but you still wouldn't trade them for the world :D. | | Back to Top | |
jacofan
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Parcmajor666
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| Posted 12/15/2008 11:08 PM (GMT -6) | | | Here's one for everybody. Concerto for Theramin and Gyil Quartet. | | Back to Top | | | Forum Information | Currently it is Saturday, November 21, 2009 12:58 AM (GMT -6)
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